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April 24, 2009

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While I certainly agree that Krugman is often annoying and will argue things in broad statements that miss finer details, I get the same sense from this post.

You seem to be presenting a false dichotomy; the debate isn't "free market" vs "socialism." It's regulated vs. unregulated finance. The vast majority of financial economists agree that some degree of regulation is needed to prevent the issues of moral hazard and adverse selection in capital markets. This doesn't mean that they embrace full-on socialism.

Most people agree that many free market reforms in Ireland were a good thing for the country's economy. But that doesn't mean that every reform was.

For example, it is perfectly reasonable to believe that slashing the corporate tax rate was a good decision from Ireland's point of view (though it exacerbated distortions in the international allocation of resources), while believing that heavily deregulating finance was a bad idea, as it allowed banks to invest more in opaque derivatives that came back to bite them in the butt.

Some reforms fueled growth whereas others fueled volatility. Can't we distinguish between them rather than lumping them into one broad theme of "deregulation?"

This shouldn't be an emotional or ideological issue; it should be a fact-based one that distinguishes between different policies even if they have the same ideological grounding. However, both Krugman's rhetoric and yours creates a polarized debate devoid of fine distinctions, dividing the world into warring camps who refuse to listen to each other.

Not at all, brian, but thanks for commenting. The error is suggesting the the financial failures unmasked in 2008 can be used to dress down economic freedom in general.

I'm giving huge credence to the idea Krugman champions that nationalizing failing banks may be okay. That's no small concession. But we have to draw the line when Krugman and others want to pretend that all the growth from free-market reforms was a mirage. That's a deeply misleading generalization.

Hi Tim,

Great article, I went to high-school in Ireland and nearly all my family live there. Not that this makes an expert on the topic, but I agree 100% with your sentiments.

Tim

The key thing in Ireland's growth path was the demographics, which were 20 years behind Continental Europe (maybe 30).

Once the Irish fertility rate began to fall in the 70s, the stage was set for the demographic windfall. Lower government spending (relative to GDP), low dependency ratio, lots of foreign investment (all that money spent on quality education and healthcare in the 50s, 60s, 70s left Ireland with a generation of healthy, highly educated workers: the Celtic Bangalore), housing boom (to shelter those same workers).

The low tax rate on corporates sucked in the Foreign Direct Investment.

This is not primarily a story about rejuvenating Thatcherism, but about a government that stuck grimly to human capital investment for 3 decades.

The other factor was massive EU financed investment in infrastructure, giving Ireland a modern infrastructural base, a further attraction to foreign industrial investment-- Dell, the pharmacos, Cisco etc.

The public sector 'shrank' then because the private sector was expanding so fast.

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