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Devin Cheevers

Great to have you on board Dane & interesting post.

I'd have to agree with your analogy.

Does it come down to ensuring as level a playing field (pardon the pun) as possible? Or is it space to grow (insulated) before competing with incumbents.

Plants compete for resources, sun, soil and nutrients.

Industry for the most part consumer dollars, euro, yen etc..

While plants can't reach out to nip potential competitors in the bud, business can.

I'll leave the debate about the right mix of gatekeepers (market forces vs govt) to this margin, space, referee role for another day.

Charles Johnson

On the potato, I'm reminded of that which was written by Jared Diamond in Guns, Germs, and Steel. You can explore the importance of crops and domesticated animals on its website here. http://www.pbs.org/gunsgermssteel/variables/index.html

As a recovering vegetarian, I must say that we often underplay the importance of meat in the formation of civilization. I wonder sometimes if part of the reason our brains are so complex and so much of our civilization is near waterways and that fish is good for the brain are all merely coincidences. Might this all have evolved together?

Sergey Kurdakov

William H. Mcneill was probably first wrote on the subject ( he had his graduate work on subject back in 60s )

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2267/is_1_66/ai_54668867

but still I think that most important changing force was advent of printing see

Elizabeth L. Eisenstein
The Printing Revolution in Early Modern Europe

I seen few papers which assessed influence of printing on economic growth

but no papers on potato thougth .

Really that would be intresting to take several changing forces ( growth of population due to better nutrition and better health ), gold from america which added to trade with middle east and india ( and china ), printing and make better picture on how important these forces were.

Sergey Kurdakov

also we should not forget the borrowing of ideas from india and china.
They might not be essential , but being introduced they gave the sence of novelty and that there are quite a few new ways to perform things and these new things bring good ( the same potato was new and was good for feeding ).

Sergey Kurdakov

BTW William McNeill also presented few other reasons

division of europe which kept rivalry between elites ( this same idea is developed in
Capitalists in Spite of Themselves
Elite Conflict and Economic Transitions in Early Modern Europe by
Richard Lachmann )

the evolution of weaponry and urgent need to present countermeasures.

so when all 'forces' are considered togethter the picture of 'rise of europe' emerges

John Courtin

Both Fish and Chips Have Fed Growth of Northern European Economies

Hurray for the potato, a tuber to be reckoned with … for the potato not only helped the Irish economy to grow but also the incorrect spelling of that noun once contributed to the toppling of a U.S. Presidential-Vice Presidential bid and (not to be too starchy about it) led to concomitant shifts in U.S. economic policies as a result by the ultimate victor! Potato-driven change!

How fascinating it is to examine the tweaking of forces, due both to natural changes and those caused by humans, which have resulted in measurable shifts in the movement of civilizations up and down the latitudes, and east and west across the longitudes. Surely, the potato had a signal role in the major up-shift of population that Dane describes and in the development of a more robust northern European economy due to the availability of such a reliable food staple.

A similar assist should also be credited to the development of dried cod, which caused an earlier, smaller, but still measurable population up-shift in that region … a simple but vital technology developed by the Vikings a thousand years earlier. Simply put, both fish and chips have had their impacts on northern European economic growth.

In more recent times, the phenomenal growth of population in many very hot and humid places on the globe is attributable in large measure to refinements in air conditioning technology. Prior to "the big-bang moment" with this breakthrough technology, the more temperate zones around the world … in both hemispheres as late as the early 20th century … had an absolute lock on where most of the powerful cities of the world were located, cities typically surrounded by thriving industrial bases. Think of New York City a century ago supported by the industrial might of upstate New York … a region which can be regarded metaphorically as America’s first Silicon Valley … (not to mention that it remains the home of salt potatoes).

In 1900, the upstate New York region was the undisputed industrial engine of New York State, then rightfully called “the Empire State.” Ironically, it was in this very region where the sowing of the seeds of its later decline occurred … through the much-heralded demonstration in 1904 by architect and industrial innovator, Frank Lloyd Wright, that air-condition technology could be used successfully to cool a sizeable commercial building. Wright incorporated air-conditioning into his iconic, 600,000 sq.ft. Larkin Administration Building in Buffalo (designed in 1902-04) to please his entrepreneur-client, Darwin D. Martin, who was pushing Wright to innovate and to experiment. That was “the big-bang moment” for air-conditioning technology — the world’s first entirely air-conditioned building — and it worked. With that bold experiment in Buffalo, Wright showed that building windows could remain closed year-round, which allowed ever after for significant changes in the design of building interiors and in building heights.

Thereafter, New York State soon witnessed the growth and development of powerhouse Carrier Air Conditioning Corp., in the Syracuse area … founded by entrepreneur, Dr. Willis Carrier, who first developed an early air conditioning technology in 1902, and then scaled the manufacturing of this technology through his eponymous company.

Without the perfection of air conditioning technology, it is inconceivable today that, for example, the City of Phoenix could be preparing to be a city of eight million inhabitants in a few years, as it is doing … or that Dubai and Abu Dhabi could have designed and built so many phenomenal tower projects over the past few decades in a region that only a half century ago was thought of as a perfect climate for the cultivation of dates.

The drying in the sun of a piece of cod … the planting of the first potato in Ireland … the building of an unusual building in Buffalo … each seemingly a small, inconsequential act, but when they are scaled, they become technologies that change the course of where advanced civilization flourishes.

Congratulations, Dane, on your selection as the budding (my final themed comment)Thoughtology Blogger.

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