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Gunpowder.

Can I bring five One-Laptops-Per-Child, each loaded up with data about the last 1000 years of inventions?

Otherwise, the trick is bring things that are useful and/or longlasting and/or can be replicated.

A good osmotic water cleanser would be awesome, but I'm not sure how long they last.

A single winding wristwatch, as in the original thread, would let a fleet of ships determine their longitude. It would probably be hard to build another from it, though. Would quartz crystals be better?

There are probably some good seeds or bacteria that you could replicate en masse once you were back there.

Some kind of weapon seems key. A gun would eventually run out of ammunition. Maybe something you could spend a few hours winding to "charge" that could fling multiple projectiles.

A camping tent could collapse pretty nicely and provide a lot of shelter from the elements.

You can't take back an OLPC with 1000 years of data. That violates the meta rules of the riddle. It like getting three wishes and then using your last wish to wish for more wishes.

1.) A weapon and I go for a crossbow as it would be a mayor improvement that could be replicated nevertheless.

2.) A book about steam engines. If I could convince someone to finance the construction I would be the hero of the age.

3.) A chess set. The best game ever and it might impress the rich and mighty enough to get my finance for the steam engine.

4.) A mousetrap. I hate mice and I guess there would be demand for such a device.

5.) A telescope. I guess I could impress the hell out of people!

Bah! the rest of my comment above got cut off. Probably from poor use of cut and paste. Here's the rest of what I meant to say (as well as I can remember it).


So, assuming I can't take back the sum total of accumulated human knowledge on a thumb drive jammed in an OLPC, here's the inventions I'd try to get passed the chrono-customs agents.

These aren't necessarily thing that I could fit in a backpack, but they sure would have an impact on society. I'm assuming that I get to pick where and when I go....so I'm headed to ancient Rome.

1) The Bessemer Process - cheap steel production could really stir things up in the Empire.

2) A Slide Rule - America went to the moon based largely on calculation performed using these wonderful tools. Imagine them in the hands of Roman engineers.

3) Corn. Combine this with the concept of the three crop rotation and that puts food in a lot of stomaches. Besides, who wants Bread and Circuses when you can get Cornbread and Circuses.

4) Refrigeration - Before the 20th century. The leading cause of death world wide was food poisoning.

5) The steam engine - I was going to put double entry bookkeeping here, but Chris is right. Steam power is just too useful. The combination of Steel + Steam = Railroads and Steam Ships. Give how the Roman loved to build roads, they be quick to jump all over the Railroad.

This challenge sounds eerily like something from Star Trek. Don't we have a temporal prime directive?

I think the really important question is whether or not you'd even want to go back in time at all. Everyday Americans enjoy standards of living now that rivals anything even the 19th century industrialists had.

Survivalist handbook,Solar powered notebook.Compound Bow/with green laser sight,the metallurgist master craftsman book,a good saddle with stirrups.With survival book learn to find and collect for gunpowder.The bow can be replicated.metal smithing is the heart of all cities and towns.they were no saddles back then stirrups would be a nation building breakthrough.The pc with all encyclopedia is the power of knowledge use it wisely and protect at all cost.

Although time travel has been a common plot device in fiction since the 19th century, and one-way travel into the future is arguably possible given the phenomenon of time dilation based on velocity in the theory of special relativity (exemplified by the twin paradox), as well as gravitational time dilation in the theory of general relativity, it is currently unknown whether the laws of physics would allow backwards time travel.

Time travel is the concept of moving between different points in time in a manner analogous to moving between different points in space, either sending objects (or in some cases just information) backwards in time to some moment before the present, or sending objects forward from the present to the future without the need to experience the intervening period (at least not at the normal rate).

The comments seem to be talking all around the question but not addressing the heart of the entreprenurial debate. The issue should be: How to get state capital around the financial logjam and into the hands of the entrepreneur.

The comments seem to be talking all around the question but not addressing the heart of the entreprenurial debate. The issue should be: How to get state capital around the financial logjam and into the hands of the entrepreneur.

Einstein himself is well known for rejecting some of the claims of quantum mechanics. While clearly contributing to the field, he did not accept the more philosophical consequences and interpretations of quantum mechanics, such as the lack of deterministic causality and the assertion that a single subatomic particle can occupy numerous areas of space at one time. He also was the first to notice some of the apparently exotic consequences of entanglement and used them to formulate the Einstein-Podolsky-Rosen paradox, in the hope of showing that quantum mechanics had unacceptable implications.

Once you learn the relevant language (and German is big for tech anywhere in Europe), it's not too difficult to get set up around there. But the US economy has become very miserable for tech workers and innovative, small businesses in general.

It’s true that we don’t know what we’ve got until we lose it, but it’s also true that we don’t know what we’ve been missing until it arrives.

Saying and doing are two different things,aren't they?

We reached the Moon and came back,but we find it troublesome to cross our own street and meet our neighbors

knowing everything of something.

Il est étonnant à quel point le mot-clé puissante queue longue, c'est quand il vient à l'immobilier. Via un logiciel de suivi, il est idéal pour regarder comment mon blog se trouve sur l'internet basé sur diverses choses, comme des rues, des quartiers, des profils d'entreprise, études de marché, ect dans mon domaine de Hopkinton Massachusetts.

I guess the point is to give and save as much as you can and make your money work for you like the good servant we should strive to be.

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  • Tim Kane
    Senior scholar at the Kauffman Foundation, former entrepreneur, and veteran Air Force officer.
  • Dane Stangler
    Research manager in the Office of the President at the Kauffman Foundation.
  • Robert Litan
    VP of Research and Policy at the Kauffman Foundation, and former White House official.
  • Brink Lindsey
    Senior scholar in Research and Policy at the Kauffman Foundation.